Sheldon's Fender Nuts are an ingenious design from the late and irreplaceable Sheldon Brown. It is a nut for recessed brake bolts which has a threaded extension to allow a 6mm bolt to attach an L-bracket or sliding bridge and provide a little more freedom installing fenders. It's just what I wanted to get the fender clearance I needed on the rear without interfering with the brakes.
After attaching the sliding bridge I bent the upper part of the bracket to prevent it from slipping down
and I magically had all the clearance I need on the rear. The bridge will be flattened out and a better install will be made after I have the frame repainted, but now I know it will work.
Confident that I had all the problems solved and could "tweek" the fender lines when I reinstall them, I took it out for a test. Boy had I screwed up!
The front brakes were practically useless, forced the fenders into the tires and the front fender rubbed anytime I got out of the saddle. Without realizing it, I had forced the brake calipers almost closed by cinching the fender up into the fork. I pondered on this and found no solution but to cut the front of the fender off.
The brake bridge in front just does not have the proper angle to create a usable clearance for the tire.
The real problem is the head tube angle and fork slope. The brakes extend that angle and force the fender into the tire. There is just no more vertical room.
That is the classical problem found on 70-80's road bikes, they just weren't built for anything but fast riding.I'm just going to have to sacrifice that appearance for any kind of performance,
but functionally, I don't need the front part of the fender anyway.
A friend of mine had the same problem with some wooden fenders. He cut the fender in two pieces and mounted both pieces with an improvised bracket that he made from a cabinet drawer handle.
ReplyDeleteI don't know if that makes any sense or not. I am sure you can get that front part on there also. Look around on the internet I bet you find someone else who has already done it.
It can be done, but from a structural standpoint it's probably unnecessary. It kinda sorta broke my heart to cut it, but I'm not sure I'd like the appearance after patching it together with a bracket. On the other hand, it won't hurt to try.
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I ran into similar clearance problems trying to install Planet Bike Cascadia fenders on my Miyata 710 with 27 x 1.25 tires and the original sidepull brakes. I ended up using a Dremel to cut out a (roughly) rectangular section from the top of each fender, clearing the brake parts that interfered. A lot easier to do with plastic than aluminum, I'm sure! Kind of a kludge, but it's not really visible unless you get up close, and I'm just happy to have any fenders on there at all!
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately it's the top of the fender which causes the problem. I've obsessed over a solution and I think,thanks to a previous suggestion by somervillian, I have a sort of solution to try in the morning. Stay tuned, naked tires bug me these days, something is bound to happen.
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